ShampooMonK

4 | 7 days ago

I wonder if Franz Wagner could be a potential fit or target. I think he would thrive in our system. Magic are also analytically driven so it would make sense to move Paolo and I have to believe if they do try to attempt to do so, they may not get as much in return.

jkwah

2 | 7 days ago

A wing who can’t shoot doesn’t seem like a Brad/Joe type of player. He’s pretty expensive for what he offers.

ShampooMonK

1 | 6 days ago

I don’t think Franz’s shot is broken nor do I think it’s unfixable. In addition, the Celtics also would be able to create a system that would greatly benefit with ample spacing and allow Franz to shine as a multi positional faceted SG/SF. Finally, Jamahl Mosley is a decent defensive minded coach, he’s an awful one offensively cannot create a competent offense if it slapped him in the face.

[deleted]

0 | 7 days ago

Not really, unless they let their feelings get in the way it should be pretty straightforward.

They can only take 1 player from us in the expansion draft regardless of the number of expansion teams, so it’s really not gonna be that bad we’re not gonna lose our entire depth.

Turbulent-Let-1180

5 | 7 days ago

Not really, unless they let their feelings get in the way it should be pretty straightforward.

They can only take 1 player from us in the expansion draft regardless of the number of expansion teams, so it’s really not gonna be that bad we’re not gonna lose our entire depth.

CarBallAlex

12 | 7 days ago

34 days until opening night

chinesefox97

1 | 7 days ago

With the expansion draft confirmed to be happening in 2028 season, it would be nice if we could consolidate our depth and picks for a bigger star so we don’t lose somebody good in the expansion.

BradWonder

3 | 7 days ago

Eh, we got time

King_Of_Pants

3 | 7 days ago

I haven’t seen other expansion drafts play out, but I imagine there will be a fire sale around the league right before it happens.

Deep teams will sell to shallow teams, as everyone shores up their top 8-9 players. Teams might hold out on signing guys until after the draft happens etc etc.

But the other side is, isn’t there a limit on how many players a team can lose?

Eg. if we have 8 guys + Hugo + Walsh, then trading one guarantees we lose the other. Whereas keeping both means we at least still have a bench wing in rotation.

It’s also potentially a good way for teams to clear cap space. A team like Philly could use this draft to dump one of their max contract players, who probably would prioritise big names and ticket sellers.

Also, we should all be thankful it’s Seattle and Las Vegas. Tatum has been very clear his entire career that he’d leave for St Louis if they ever got a team.

GenoThyme

1 | 7 days ago

I’m guessing every team will only lose 1 player. That’d be two 15-man rosters and seems like the fairest way to do it.

King_Of_Pants

2 | 7 days ago

Yeah, I think that’s what they’ve done in the past.

And then the teams also get guaranteed picks in the draft, so they’re not just running a roster full of 9th men.

It might affect our LAC pick too depending on the timing. Charlotte got pick #4 in the last expansion draft.

ernie-bernie

2 | 7 days ago

Hard to explain but a lot of people really just believe everything that Brad says like he’s some type of god lol and haven’t made some questionable decisions

King_Of_Pants

6 | 7 days ago

Brad and Danny have never had a reputation for being straight shooters, because they’re both fairly soft-spoken, and we associate straight-shooters with loud mouths.

But historically they were actually brutally honest if you listened to them, and a lot of what they would say would eventually happen. A lot of the “lies” from Danny Ainge were people putting words in their mouths.

For example:

Danny Ainge outright said Isaiah Thomas’ injury would require surgery - Nobody really listened. Isaiah publicly pushed back and said he’d be fine with just rehab. We traded him weeks later.

Danny Ainge outright said we were looking for “shooting with size” but stressed we weren’t going after people who struggled defensively - A year or two later, with Brad in charge (and Danny advising), we traded for Al Horford.

Brad said the team wasn’t going to tank after letting go of half the championship roster. People just assumed he was giving lip servive - We ended up being the #2 seed.

Back when he was still a coach, Scal excitedly asked him about an upcoming Robert Williams III / Joel Embiid matchup, and Brad shot him down live on air and made it known he didn’t like that matchup at all - When the matchup came, we spent most of that game hiding Rob from Embiid.

Normally the Celtics FO is known for being patient and consistent. Eventually their plans make sense if you’re willing to wait and see how things play out. This offseason has been weird because we’ve seen ~3 different responses from Brad that are all contradictory.

For example, he went from saying the team was really close to competing. Weeks later he said we needed drastic change because we weren’t.

fearofaflatplanet

0 | 7 days ago

Except that Brad’s post season presser was about more rim pressure & less dependence on 3s & then he traded our best rim attacker by far for a spot up shooter.

King_Of_Pants

2 | 7 days ago

Yeah that’s what I’m sorta saying.

Historically they’ve been fairly blunt and honest. This offseason was a little different. Brad was all over the place and while I think the team will be good, it’s harder to tell what the actual plan is.

xskarma

1 | 7 days ago

The flipside of that is that there are people who act like Brad is some bozo who doesn’t know what the fuck he’s doing and should be fired.

Both are extremists views that should be ignored for nuance.

chinesefox97

1 | 7 days ago

Two things can be true. He’s a pretty good GM that can make mistakes just like anybody else. Time will tell if trading JB is a mistake but it’s a huge risk.

icatfilm

2 | 7 days ago

Mazzulla is a top 2 regular season coach and we are winning 55 games, baby!!

chinesefox97

2 | 7 days ago

Yup we’ve always performed well in the regular season. It’s the playoffs where his system doesn’t work as well and we allow less talented teams to beat us time after time.

King_Of_Pants

2 | 7 days ago

We’ve got no Brown to blame if Tatum gets hurt again.

He’s been severely injured the past 3 times Boston has been eliminated in games and moderately injured 1 time before that.

CarBallAlex

5 | 7 days ago

None of them have really been Tatum’s fault. 2023 was Gabe Vincent being under him, just an unlucky ankle turn. He even tried to play through it

2025 nobody could predict an Achilles. A non-contact injury could happen at any moment

2026 I think was just us being cautious and it as the first round. There was no reason to risk the future to get a chance to get our doors blown off by the Knicks. We had a flawed roster that couldn’t even produce 48 minutes of Center play because Vucevic and Garza were unplayable in the matchup and Queta couldn’t stop fouling.

In all 3 instances, Brown got blame because he’s been so often compared as an equal to Tatum, you expect him to be the next man up.

In 2023 when Tatum got hurt, Brown had 8 turnovers and was terrible. In 2025, Brown spent that postseason injured as well and not his fault, but he didn’t exactly show up outside of game 5 against the Knicks. And 2026, he was the man all year, and when we got down to crunch time, he was the one that couldn’t hit shots.

Tatum has burdened his fair share of criticism too. But the difference is when our backs are against the wall, he’s the guy that has shown up. Game 6 against Milwaukee 2022, game 6 and 7 against Philly 2023, and he was the guy going off in game 4 against the Knicks before the injury. Without Brown, Tatum played well in 2021, we just had no hope of winning that series. And even going back to 2018, that game 7 was Tatum leading the way and Brown contributing to 9 of the team’s 32 missed 3’s.

Outside of Indiana game 1, which was maybe not super consequential because we swept them, when has Brown really shown up as the single factor for why we won a playoff game/series? I can point to like 3-5 examples with Tatum, but Brown just doesn’t have those moments. All of Brown’s great playoff games were never him lighting it up in crunch time or carrying the entire team.

This is why he gets criticized. He was supposed to step up in these instances because we believed in him and he simply doesn’t take over the way Tatum has shown he can do. We saw it a little on the regular season, but absolutely not in the series against Philadelphia.

fearofaflatplanet

1 | 7 days ago

Gonna be a special kind of schadenfreude to watch the JB haters scramble for a new scapegoat (I predict Mazzula, PG, White & Brad in that order) when their designated punching bag is no longer around to lay the team’s shortfalls on.

Before yall flame me-

I genuinely hope to be proven wrong about all this & see the Cs thrive. I’m a 3rd generation Cs fan native Bostonian who has been rabid since the tail end of the Bird era, through multiple long droughts, etc etc. But I also genuinely think we are fucked as far as contending goes for the foreseeable future unless we get gifted a superstar for a pu pu platter à la KG trade

Was a good ride too bad most of yall spent it bitching about Jaylen

TrueReigns

1 | 7 days ago

From how much he’s had to carry JB’s bum ass, yeah. The fact that he never once managed to succeed without Tatum in all those situations when he claims to be so much is kinda telling. Can’t blame a guy for getting injured being the biggest Ironman superstar in the league for so long

Daily Discussion Thread - September 16, 2026