Feel like we need to have a come to Jesus on what “very rare unique item” should mean.
I’m sure it just means a certain tier of unique. Not that higher tier uniques are necessarily all that good.
Yeah, I knew that going in. My brain told me to go for the perfect chaos, but my heart told me to go for the very unique item.
It could even be a boat
The box! The box!
Next year you won’t remember that a perfect chaos dropped but you will when it drops a hh/mb
I got a headhunter from the very rare remnant in 0.5.
Lol next week you mean right?
This is my version of playing the lottery. That and the 5 random currencies I’m not gonna pass up even if it’s transmute orbs half the time
5 random currency is the test of whether you’re a true poe player imo. Always gotta go for it.
I got a mage blood drop from this last league so you weren’t wrong to follow your heart
If you ain’t picking the very rare unique every time you ain’t livin’
Me: “Yes! Rare unique!”
60 seconds later
“mings heart or cracklekeep for the 33rd time in a row”
Trash loreweave, here we come!
lol I would of done the same thing, I’m proud
You made the right call mathematically, it appears that the pool of mythic rare uniques has contracted from 050 (Berek’s rings almost certainly were ‘nudged’ from mythic to rare, as was Chernobog’s Pillar).
Even with 050 odds where the community thought there were 51 mythic uniques (we might have been wrong on 2-3 of them), you’d always prefer a random mythic unique over a Perfect Chaos outside scenarios where the PCO was a huge % of your league wealth.
The 9-runeword is a mythic unique as far as we know. Gold cost to trade them is the giveaway for mythics - they cost about 13500 to trade for if their minimum level to equip is 1 (+50% if a martial weapon, I didn’t investigate caster ones as they are weird), scaling on a slow exponential curve with minimum level. Tabula and Kalandra’s Touch, which are both definitely mythic, seem to have minimum levels in the 12 and 35 range for this formula.
The lower three rarity tiers cost 1⁄3 and 2⁄3 of the cost to trade that mythics would, I suspect 2⁄3 for the rare tier, and 1⁄3 for both common and uncommon tiers.
The odds are good on this gamble.
I always take the unique, one day it will be a mageblood or headhunter
I had one in riual in 0.5 so i keep believing
There are about 50 very rare uniques, mageblood and hh are those too. So the chances are 1⁄25 to get a jackpot
I’ve heard the very rare has some extremely valuable outcomes at a low but not unreasonable rate.
With perfect chaos being the 2nd highest value currency, the only way that could have gotten better is if you rolled a mirror. Fracturing orbs would have been equivalent (at least, according to the currency exchange)
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Yes but that very rare Unique of which i dropped (this lineage) 30 so far from reg maps :D is in the same boat with a headhunter and an MB.
I found 2 Very rare unique encounters so far in 7+ day played
I got a HH from one of these in 0.5 SSF, they’re somewhat better odds than a random unique drop because they cut off the bottom of the loot table, but if you look at the weights it’s still very unlikely that you’re getting something from the highest tier pool
It could also be that it’s just a lucky roll for rarity rather than being a guaranteed T3+ or something, in that case getting a bottom of the barrel unique would still be a very likely result
And people tend to forget rarity is not the same thing is trade value, we have plenty of T0 uniques (and a lot of T1s) in PoE1 that are still worthless and only got a slight bump when they added Kingsmarch so they can be turned into dust, which raised the floor on the worst of them purely because the dust value scales with rarity
Not only it’s unique, not only it’s rare, but it’s very rare unique.
It reads like triple redundancy.
I wonder when will we get the
Uncommon Very Rare Very Unique
So it’s Quintuple the redundancy
In Poe 1 we have “valuable” tag in some mechanics so it can be Valuable Very Rare Unique in a future XD
Very rare chance drop doesnt mean that there is at least barely popular build, that uses it out there.
Also Im not sure, that this Lineage gem qualifies. Cant it be, that actual unique was just hidden by loot filter and lineage gem is just a general drop there? Not like this unique was worth something if it was hidden, just this actual support gem doesnt seem anywhere near rare to me. Ive played 1,5 weeks of 0.5.5 and got like 4 or 5 of those.
Maybe. It’s hard to tell, but I was looking for the first thing that dropped from remnant and I’m 90% confident it was the Tacati’s.
It was the totemic greatclub. Marohi Erqi is a T0 unique in PoE1, meaning it’s as rare as Mageblood or Headhunter. Unsure if it’s a T1 or T0 in this game but it was definitely the drop and not the lineage support
I thought the item from the remnant is always the first thing that is dropped, meaning it would drop right where the remnant is. Where I’m standing is where the remnant was. I know it’s hard to see because of the monkey.
That’s a fair assumption. Lootsplosions make it hard to figure out what dropped first. Positioning of the decorator for the item is also not consistent when filtered out. You can test this by changing zones, or sometimes even moving away and pressing alt to see that the items that were filtered out are not in the same place as before.
So your post is spreading misinformation?
Better call the internet police.
I got a Headhunter from one of these. So, it’s still worth clicking, IMO, even though there are crappy uniques in the same tier.
I got a Mageblood from it last league. Whenever I see unique belt, rare unique or very rare unique I always take the gamble
Don’t forget unique jewelry
I’m less excited about that as there isn’t really anything super expensive jewellery wise. I’ll normally choose that for the opulent rune to carry forward
Belts are jewellry, so this is just another roll for belts.
This is the first time I’ve seen one of these posts that WASNT a headhunter.
I think there’s like 45 uniques in the pool that are “t1” rarity since there technically isn’t any t0’s yet in poe2
theres T0 now people figured that out with last league cuzz the Chance odds on heavey belts for HH went WAY down to get a HH on avg
Did they adjust chance orbs across the board for the super rare stuff or just mb and hh moved to their own tier?
Is that actually the drop? I think it should be a unique item. I’ve only ever gotten unique items from these.
Wonder if the actual unique was hidden by their filter and it also happened to drop a lineage gem…
Can confirm I’ve done these remnants before and not even gotten a unique. Don’t know if it’s a bug or misunderstanding but I’ve seen it with my own eyes.
Probably a “very rare” but shitty unique and was filtered out lol
This is exactly what it is lol. I toggle my filter sometimes just to see what very unique trash is on the ground
First season I’ve used a filter so you’re probably right. Didn’t even consider it at the time. Still see a lot of trash come through
But its trash that has potential
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“very rare” and “very good” are, unfortunately, not the same words
When I first read it gives t1-0 unqiue, I immediately went “Oh cool, so 99.95% garbage, got it.”
It’s t0, so idk about 1⁄15 chance on mb and hh and 14⁄15 on trash. “Rare Unique” gives t1-0.
No way tacati’s ire is a t0.
It was a Marohi Erqi apparently. OP mistook the tacati’s ire for the item.
Tacati’s isn’t a unique. It’s a lineage gem. The unique in the OP post wasn’t shown on his filter.
There is no way in hell all t0 uniques have same weight.
GGG said that they have same weight, unless it was changed again. Originally IIRC astramentis was the most rare.
It used to roll the gear first than the items, making amulets the rarest outcome from what I remember
shouldn’t there be more tiers if that was the case?
PoE2 doesn’t have t0
Yeah its technically T1 according to PoE2db. But its effectively the same as T0 in PoE1
Didn’t even know lineage gems were considered “unique”
it’s got the amber color flavor text and can only be used single-y
They aren’t, op got confused. Marohi erqi was the t0 drop.
Meanwhile, you can run multiples of unique items in other slots.
Well, they said rare, not really good or really strong. But to your point they should revisit some of these rare uniques and evaluate if they really need to be rare
Nah it’s the same of 5x random currencies.
Always gamba. It’s a game afterall.
Did one of these today, it was a Alphas Howl….
Very Rarely Used
My ‘5 random currencies’ are always wisdom scrolls or transmutation orbs but one day they might be mirrors.
There are some uniques that have a distinct “ting” sound, different than the rest. They still sell for 1 Regal like 99,9% of uniques but there is definitely a class higher than just “unique”
It’s very rare in drop, not in currency value lol
how is tacati ire rare in drop lol? that’s the only lineage drop i got the most
Because it wasn’t the unique that dropped for the remnant. OP duped you.
rare <> good
rare and bad: progeria, a spontaneous lmna gene mutation causing children to age rapidly and often die of heart disease before their teens.
rare and good: a loss-of-function pcsk9 mutation that gives carriers naturally very low ldl cholesterol and sharply reduced heart disease risk for life.
“Have a come to Jesus”
What?
Gamba is the only right choice here. It could be a mageblood !
Very rare but 99% of the time not very useful 🤣
Hexer’s Robe with four augments
😂
Hope this helps but that’s were I got my mage blood this league from Very rare unique in expedition
Best thing I ever got from this was Fall of the Axe, which is okay but yeah. Not exactly a world beater
this has to be a bug, lineage support should not be unique items.
That means T0 uniques
A few days ago one of the Guiding palm scepters dropped for me from one of those. I was even lucky enough to turn into Palm of the dreamer, but it’s not getting sold, it’s just mocking me from the market stash
Prolly q reforged unique
Very rare(ly used) unique
You just didn’t squint and see the fine print.
Very rare should be swapped with the likes of: ‘Depleted Mana Rune’, the rarest drop from a wisp, a Chris Wilson’s Signature Fishing Rod, a fully working sword (on future league, a fully working weapon that is about to be releases yet), and other way rarest than the drop of a Mirror (because there seems to be a lot of them in 2).
Got two mbs from them this league.
Iirc it’s a 1⁄20 for mb and same for hh.
Got a Mageblood off my second one last season and later got my second HH off one. Gonna roll it every time.
If you’re not swimming in currency always take the rare currency. Otherwise gamble on that Astramentis.
I got a mageblood from these, so even if it was really lucky it was definitely worth it for me!!
You know what would be cool? If these were reworded from rarity to vague costs.
Unique Item - 1 - 40ex
Expensive Unique Item - 1-10c
Very Expensive Unique Items - 1d+
Adjust the numbers as you see fit, I know “expensive” is really subjective, but I’m sure they have an active rolling database on the price of everything listed for trade. For SSF you can just switch the wording back to Rare. Or don’t even bother.
They should manually adjust the very rare table so that the items there are all actually good, seeing the text and then seeing the drop in literally all of the cases for me have been first hype and then disappointing
That’s a lineage support not a unique item
It does not say “very expensive” :)
Be a man and take perfect chaos orb, very rare unique means 5 percent chance to get mageblood or headhunter etc.
uniques need better stats seems like most only take away from the player…like if you don’t have life regen that one crown with pain attunement is useless lol
Pretty sure it means “Very rarely used unique item”
Its just a t0 unique 90%of them suck. Still a better chance at mageblood then running a map
Just so you know, you can get a “very rare unique item” on Rituals. It’s not worth it bro believe me after running GE’s that Rune has never ever dropped a valuable unique. They should replace that with “Boss Unique Item” including jewels. That’ll be worth 9 runes.
Rare does not mean guaranteed valuable result.
It does mean on average valuable result though. “Very rare unique item” is in fact a very valuable choice, with something like a 1 in 50 chance of Mageblood or Headhunter. It’s usually on average more valuable than the Perfect Chaos.
Very rare and good do not mean the same thing. It’s based on the tier of unique.
I had that show up, and whatever dropped, my filter hid it. I was curious what it dropped, so I turned off the filter. Can u spot what it is? Before we have a conversation about tier of uniques, maybe we need to have a conversation about quality vs quantity (maybe it’s the same conversation)
https://www.xbox.com/play/media/DQrY5Xd8fG
Items should only apply to items and not currency/gems etc. It’s why rarity on gear is such a problem.
and also rare doesn’t = good, just rare.