Guess My Least Favorite Mechanic To Do
Is it breach?
Very close but that’s not it.
I think it is because you grabbed the hive node.
wat, why, breach is so fun
I like to atzri rush only, once you make the straight path to her, its get easy to do.
But yeah i don’t like to do the rooms.
Once it clicked in that i can just rush the boss i started doing a lot more temples and actually enjoy it now. I love the final room with all the chests exploding currency.
that’s the only thing you can do with it now, they aggressively deleted any other strats afaik
Its a bit of a shame since all the mechanics around upgrading the rooms are basically non existent now as you can not sustain them anyways.
I wish they could balance it in a way that snaking can not happen, but the rooms somehow stay relevant.
Like i wanted to get those temporary arm and leg modifiers, but i couldnt even run the room 4 times before it got deleted. It was such a frustrating experience that i can not recommend it to anyone.
there is a hydra strat from milky that farms vaal armourers infuser (?) that is more currency per hour. think but i am not sure
Eh, if you do temple “properly” you can generally keep getting some of the valuable rooms that are worth multi divs per drop for a while.
I don’t think it’s better than atziri rushing once you get your atlas tree though due to the combination of the value of the atziri gems and the guaranteed temple shit from the atziri chests.
Tbf the stuff we did in December deserved to be deleted completely. But it’s kinda sad when stuff goes from light speed insanely broken to just dropping random rare items. Sometimes GGG has a really hard time hitting a reasonable middle. And by sometimes, I mean most of the time recently.
And people still keep doing the snake (it got me!)
Well … on your way to atziri you can also stack lock medallions (drops from architect very frequently) and then once a sacrifice room appears, you can get the 1 or 2 cultivation orbs + lock the room with a medallion. If you also get a gem room, connecting it to a lvl 3 sac room makes it lvl 3 as well = another expensive orb. It honesty is kiinda juicy. I farm expedition and in the travel maps i put 3 temple tablets and then rush the map in full light radius set. Every 4 maps = atziri and 2 architects pretty much guaranteed
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Honestly the Temple should auto build towards Atziri. Take the weird room upgrade system out and have all the special room rewards randomly roll as side paths from the main route to Atziri. Each beacon you finish in maps constructs a bit more of the temple. Once the construction reaches the boss room, you can rush it or keep building up to a max number of side rooms.
Cool idea, the less i need to think about it the better, its to overingeniert atm.
How do I rush boss
Place tiles, get architect -> Unlock chamber. Path to chamber and Atziri. Kill boss.
Do a bunch of temples until you can get a path from the start straight to the atziri boss room. Use only path cards and not room cards in your straight line so it’s easy to fix in case the end of your path gets destabilized. Put room cards only on the side of your path at the end so that destabilization kills those rooms instead of killing your path.
Once you have a path, it’s super easy to connect to Architech with room cards. Next run, it should be easy to connect to royal access chamber with room cards as well.
Flow is, kill architect and place royal access chamber. Next run, royal access chamber, architect and atziri. And repeat.
Its almost better currency to do rooms than go to atziri herself… don’t get me wrong, atziri does have 1 good drop that can go for ALOT if you get good rolls & corruption.
But still if it wasnt for that, she would be worthless.
Doesn’t she also drop the lineage gem worth like 350-400 tho
That was my favorite discovery of forbidden rite, I enjoy atziri rushing
I had a juiced temple last season and I’ve never killed her once. I think I am stupid, but it is what it is.
One of my favorite content since 0.5.
Almost guaranteed 30 div++ per loop, with a slim chance for big drops. I can even snaking some rooms while doing it too.
Pretty much this, made a super easy 20-30 divs the first few days of the league just Atziri rushing
Tablets for double crystal are also not that expensive, with increased effect of tablets in mapping it feels good to farm. Each 2 temple runs approx you get atziri. Very profitable endgame when people gamba. I also got my atziri communion early enough to buy myself a mageblood.
Expensive enough to sell them =) Thanks for buying!
How you manage that? What Room you need? Never really dived into temple
My way of doing is that I always prioritize the pathway backbone in the middle, always put Atziri’s chamber at the entrance, and put as many rooms as possible close to the boss room. Always kill the architect if you can to get Puhuarte’s Medallion (reroll room). Check also which rooms can connect to others; you can connect places without needing pathways if you know the room connections.
Doing this allows me to reach Atziri approximately every 2 temples. There are times when you can get ultra unlucky with destabilization, in which case it’ll take 3 times (I’ll say doing it properly, this happens 1⁄10 times).
Also, don’t forget to put restricted rooms on the sides to block the architect or Atziri’s chamber from appearing too far out.
Good luck
Just want to add that you can press alt when you hover over rooms to see which other rooms are related to them. Of course it’s fastest to memorize them but this helps alot when starting the temple farm and get your bearings.
Thank you very much. Once I’m done with the other stuff I’ll take a look into it and follow this.
I’d like to provide an addition to those tinks - juice up the Smithy room, you’ll just need Generator and Golem Works + upgrade medallion. You’ll get the Temple quality currency from the forge at Tier 3 and from the boss at Tier 4.
Yep, I do mostly abyss and temple right now. After 0.5, doing expeditions feel so tiring.
Dude it took me 4 tries to get that path. Did it once last league and just said yea this ain’t for me
I make tons of divines just doing boss rush. Sometimes you can get a money room to tier 3 and make quick divines. 3xtemple tablets is great for travel maps too
Building a winding perfect setup is boring and unfun to me, but love fighting atziri
Any tips for getting the path in the first place? I just need her for the challenge.
Think it is kinda a shame how much Temple turned into Atziri rush. Like focusing the boss should be a valid strat, but the scaling of large temple snaking kinda the viability of most other strats.
I did Forges the other league and they are pretty good since the T3-4 doesn’t force destabilize once looted, unlike the other rare Temple currency. But it still can be a bit rough to scale to a decent size with plenty of leveled forges (I got to like 6~ so like 10 infusers per run).
Unironically GGG didn’t take any of the lessons they learned from PoE 1 temple, there you have at the very least 4 objectives that produce rewards (Double Corrupt for Gear and Gems, the Boss and the gear with special mods), the temple itself it’s more RNG but with more chances to roll the rooms you want to farm.
Depends on what they were going for. Like having players run the temple to sell the itemized corruptions instead of selling the temples did feel like an improvement or at least a reasonable change. And in POE1, it is pretty much just the T3 Corruption or T3 Gemcutter with the others just happening along the way.
So I would say POE2 did manage to make the temple feel more rewarding overall, but at the cost of those iconic T3 rooms from POE1 turning more into “things you might setup for a one-use reward if you roll the right cards” instead of “things you build your strat around”. With Atziri rush, Forge, and Snaking, that already felt like more ways you can build it than POE1, but it would still be nice if more other rooms felt worth building around as a strat. Like we really need an atlas to prefer certain room types or such so you could better target the corrupts without just turning into a snake buff…
Think the big thing POE2 temple loses from POE1 incursion is the map portion. Beacons just feel so lackluster and unrewarding compared to Incursions. Like running Scarabs to make all Incursion monsters Magic+ along Deli made the mapping really fun on top of building up the Temples. But in POE2, the Beacons just don’t feel as impactful and if you’re focusing Temple, you’re better off running more Temple Tablets to fill the crystals faster than to mix it with other mechanics. If they revamped the Beacons, even through modifiers or tree (e.g. choice node that can give a chance for additional crystal or turn all beacons into larger areas like Expedition Dungeons), that could make it feel more like Incursion.
The thing with PoE 1 temple is that it works for people who want rewards on a trade league and also works for the SSF player that wants a temple mod on their gear or just a double corrupt, honestly idk what would be the point on getting Temple as SSF in PoE 2.
I think the overall trade off of the current temple in PoE 2 it’s really lackluster, there should be not only more rewards but also more consistency, right now feels like a boss rush strat that you need to setup with some extras and nothing else.
Also the beacons are like that because the main point it’s the temple itself.
The problem is that I used up all temple node on starting Vaal city biome and idk where I can find another one. It allow me to insert 3 temple tablets with just a alc map and have total 4 crystals per map. Normal map required 6 mods which has no additional respawn in case of some BS mechanics like the ape summoned from the crystal site.
My trial run got Atziri’s companion sold for 510d, other runs got about 6d per 2 runs in about 5 min with 1h to fill up the crystal bar.
Is there even another strategy now? I didnt look into it after they said the Snake is gone
temple never existed for me, and i dont think it ever will
There’s like only two reasons to run it which is kinda sad
self hatred could be added to the list
It is actually the lowest-investment way to juice early into a league - assuming they don’t change anything.
In 0.5.5, I would do 1 irradiated + 1 vaal temple tablet in my maps while clearing the fortress. Every individual map was basically me stopping to do the vaal thing, then killing the boss, with every ~6th map going to set the temple up, and if I couldn’t fight the architect, I’d place my tiles, open the temple, and immediately close it and then get to the next map.
I was killing Atziri regularly before I even finished the Fortress, and this was on day 1/day 2, probably <50 maps TOTAL run. I got super lucky with a mageblood, but there are TONS of ~100d drops out of temple that early in a league, so while actually getting a mageblood was pretty notable, getting a HUGE amount of money early on would not be. I was doing this so early that I couldn’t even do atziri initially because you have to be doing level 75+ zones and I wasn’t, but then when I got there I struggled to even win the fight against her.
I think other stuff is more lucrative in the long run, but when you’re still getting set up, it’s so free there kind of no reason NOT to do it.
Any specific mods on the tablets?
Nope. For me, this is a day 1/day 2 strat. The tablets might not even exist if I’m fast enough, but I’m usually not quite THAT fast. It’s literally just about putting in a tablet to try to climb map tiers as fast as possible (irradiated/overseer) and then using the other tablet slot to do SOMETHING, which as far as I’ve found, the cheapest/easiest/most lucrative that early into a league when my character can barely function - is EASILY temple.
I can think of 4 reasons
Two pairs of reasons in fact
What reasons? From what I’ve seen it can still be very profitable and there are a few different strategies to run it.
Reasons and profit is not the same. You can make profit in many endgame areas. The primary reason is atziri communion. Second is cultivation orbs. But with trade second is fairly small reason to.
i mean someone running it for u to buy))) and the less people running temple - the more expensive it will be
Ignoring vaal temple is just a bad idea unless you absolutely hate it though, it’s one of the only mechanics that’s just generically good to hit as you run through.
Like if you see a ritual, and aren’t juicing it, you are probably wasting your time to do it. But temple takes nearly 0 time to do in your map, and builds up to something that makes a bunch of money and also takes nearly 0 time to just do atziri rushing. And you’ll be doing atziri every 2nd temple, so it’s just free money in trade since most of the orbs are valuable and you really don’t have to care about where you put things (other than maybe putting restricted rooms you don’t like on the outside to increase the chances of architect spawning closer to the path.)
What about the limbs?
Atziri is a condition for the MTX
4 reasons actually :)
It takes too long and the rewards are not worth the time. It’s a neat concept, but just not for me.
Too much running in the temple, the connecting corridors could be much shorter. It’s like one 10th the density of a map, at least before you snake it up properly.
I kinda liked it at first but the fact they left it so aids for an entire season basically made it give me negative vibes now just seeing it appear in my map. I stay away from it lol.
Honestly, thank you for helping me keep the price of cultivation orbs and infusers high so that I can keep running it profitably.
It’s a great one to run on league start or while you’re leveling up other content since you can build up 60 beacons passively while you’re doing the Fortress or whatever. Then you just blast 8+ temples in a row.
np :) win win situation
heck i didnt even do it during temple league, f that
and that league was the most poe2 ive played
Temple is one of my favs. Dont try to build it out though. I only boss rush atziri.
You also can get all points from atziri without touching a single city map. It’s legitimately probably the fastest tree to complete.
Please explain how to rush it
Build a straight hallway from the entrance to Atziri. Fill leftmost and rightmost columns with special rooms, but don’t complete them (this makes Architect’s room spawn closer to the main path).
Ok so I never did temple. Why at some point can I not make paths going forward? Like the last 3 top rows I cannot put a path for some reason.
Path can only connect to another path. If you placed some other room there - you’ll either have to wait until it destabilizes or chain together the rooms that can interact with it.
Paths also have directions. Maybe the path you’re trying to connect does not have the right direction.
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Temple is free pocket change. Atziri rush, spend 1h for 60 crystals, 5-6 atziris, basically guaranteed money printing currencies. The in map mechanic takes 2s on a good day, 10s on boss one.
2 big reasons I hate temple.
It should not be interconnected with maps. Let me build a temple and run it over and over.
Each room needs a checkpoint. I hate backtracking because I have alot of linear paths
Im not saying it should not be interconnected to maps, because all mechanics should be IMO, but filling up to 60 crystals take too long for casual players (dad gamer here)
My point is it should be more like delve in poe1. You spend very little time in maps and then you can run delve for a long time
The temple is just a little too much micromanagement for me.
I like to open a map and start blasting. Building a temple is so tedious
Fuck temple all my homies hate temple
I dunno I dig it. You get beacons passively as you map and rush Atziri-Atziri. While making T3 Golden Forges, Corruption/Sacrifice Chambers along the way. It’s honestly chill and I get why Temple tablets were 7 chaos EACH ealier this week, (sceenshot from Aldur League. Though current one is also hella profitable)
ALSO PSA - you can get 6 poinst PER KILL from League mech bosses, you so DO NOT need to run 25+ maps to get all of your points. like for example you can get to Abyss, do all 3 wings and kill Vessel, get the loot from him, sell it and do 2 more runs (which WILL AT LEAST break even for you, so you can get rest of 15 points from it nice and quick)
Clearly you’re saving the best for last. So I’d have to guess Ritual, because no one could think ritual is good.
In my case Ritual is empty.
For a long time my expedition tree was empty as well, maxed it out yesterday, ran 5 more GEs and I can’t be bothered anymore, running around the map checking remnants is extreeeemely boring to me.
I maxed out the Temple first actually lol, I had a sub-optimal idea of gaining those crystals as I make my way to Arbiter of Divinity, to then do some Atziri rushing because “suuurreeely I will drop Atziri Communion after 5 Atziri fights” (I didn’t).
Same. I have no points in temple.
Maybe it’s because I don’t understand it or that whole issue with the snake process a couple patches ago really soured me on it, I don’t know.
Is it worth learning and doing? Is it fun and rewarding?
Yes it’s worth it. I feel like it’s overhated at this point, and I’m someone who used to hate it. It got me my first mageblood.
The easiest way to run it is rush atziri. Build a straight line, put special rooms further away without connecting to your main path, then the architect and key room will always spawn close to your main path.
Maps?
Looks just like mine! Everytime I try to set up temple boss rush the tempel deletes my pretty path instead of all the useless other rooms so I just gave up
Damn. I like temple.
I think you speak for most of us
TBH I don’t understand how temple works lmfao
My goal for next league is to start understanding temple.
Didn’t even need to look at the picture
Hey, it’s my atlas the last two seasons! How’d you get that picture?!
I want delve
My temple bugged out the season it launched and i stopped trying to even do the mechanic i don’t even enter them when they appear in the story still haven’t fought atziri and likely never will lol
Only reason my tree don’t look like yours is because I needed to kill atiziri for the challenge.
I had to buy Atziri kill for the last challenge. Not that I couldnt beat her for sure, just I couldnt build path towards her. Not knowing how temple worked cause I ignored it since introduction and I put random room at the end of the middle corridor. Guess what you cant put corridors after room and Atziri can be connected only to corridor. For fuck sake I couldn’t destabilize that one stupid room no matter how many temples I ran. Just overcomplicated mechanic. There should be total temple layout reset from scratch.
Incursion died for this.
you don’t like tits eh?
Here a good tips toh ! They are all consider city maps.
So if you want to push 1 mechanics with city for an additional tablet, its a good spot for it while still making your atlas point.
Temple was cool for the one league where it dropped me mirrors but never again.
I interacted with it this league only for the achievement. .5 had no achievement for it and I didn’t touch it once. I’m glad I understand it a bit more now, but not sure I’ll ever touch it again unless I have to.
1000% agree. The temple is the only content in the game that actually angers me to do. Temple and and ToS are the two pieces of content that I hope get big changes with 1.0
Ritual
I’m just always afraid I’ll fuck it up and be screwed for the season
same it’s a drag
Running the temple should give points for its tree, not doing maps with the doors.
How did you get a screenshot of my atlas tree?
If I didn’t have to collect crystals in maps I’d do it, but otherwise it’s too much prep for me to want to interact with it
Atziri rushing is quite fun tbh
Thats fine, every league ya’ll say this but this just means more currency for the rest of us farming it.
So just rush atziri no thought to temple otherwise?
The temple should be more tolerable if there is undo button before you start the run. I pretty much have to leave a cheat sheet open to know what rooms can be connected
Clearly breach.
I have yet to step foot in a Vaal Temple a single time since their introduction
As someone who plays 1 character every other patch, whats the issue with temple? Is it too tedious to run/build? From my experience i just shove rooms together, try to get bonuses when possible, and run it.
Is that really bad?
I gave up on getting every achievement this season when i saw i needed to kill Atziri.
Wisps. I don’t care how much you juice then. I don’t believe you actually enjoy the mechanic and it gets forced into your maps against your will
Based
I had never touched it before but last league I did it with the intention of just doing it to fill out the passives cuz I hated cuz it being empty.
Started atziri rushing and temple ended up being my most profitable farm last league. Now it’s one of my favorites.
Ggg un-core vaal temple mech please ! We need the mine ! 😇
